What happens when religion is used to divide rather than unite?
In this episode of The Greatness Machine, Darius Mirshahzadeh talks with comedian, actor, and political commentator John Fugelsang about his book “Separation of Church and Hate”. John shares how his progressive Catholic upbringing shaped his voice as a comedian and commentator and explores how fundamentalist movements have often twisted Christianity for power, far from the teachings of Jesus. From historical examples to modern politics, he shows how faith can be weaponized and how true Christ-followers stand up for justice and compassion.
This episode also dives into navigating polarized opinions and understanding the real message of faith to think critically and lead with integrity.
In this episode, Darius and John will discuss:
- (00:00) Introduction and Background of John Fugelsang
- (02:52) Exploring the Separation of Church and Hate
- (05:44) The Evolution of Christianity and Political Influence
- (08:20) Debating Religious Beliefs and the Role of AI
- (11:10) The Impact of Media on Religious Narratives
- (13:57) The Importance of Love and Unity in Leadership
- (16:53) The Growing Spiritual Movement and Its Implications
- (19:34) The Role of Humor and Comedy in Addressing Serious Issues
- (22:33) Final Thoughts and the Path Forward
Meet John:
John Fugelsang is an American actor, comedian, writer, television host, and political commentator known for his sharp wit and outspoken views on politics, religion, and culture. Born on September 3, 1969, on Long Island, New York, he is the son of a former Catholic nun and a former Franciscan friar. John studied film and television at NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts and began a diverse career in entertainment that includes television, stand‑up comedy, and stage performances. He has appeared in films and TV shows such as “Coyote Ugly” and “America’s Funniest Home Videos,” and he’s been featured on major news networks including CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News. Since 2015, he has hosted the progressive talk show Tell Me Everything on SiriusXM Insight, and in 2025 he published his book “Separation of Church and Hate,” blending humor and critical insight on how religion intersects with politics.
Meet Darius:
Darius is your host of The Greatness Machine. Darius is a mad scientist, high-growth CEO, serial entrepreneur, author, conscious capitalist, speaker, and entertainer. Darius is on a quest to create 1,000,000 Core Value Driven Organization by 2030. He is calling this “The Core Value Revolution.” Darius is an alumni of the Birthing of Giants Entrepreneurial Program at MIT and Stagen Integral Leadership Program. Darius’s accolades include being ranked #9 Top Rated CEO in America on Glassdoor, has won numerous Stevie Awards, and has founded and grown organizations that have been ranked #40 in the Inc. 500 and were ranked #3 Best Places to Work By the San Francisco Business Time. He is all about the P’s: Passion, Pizza, Puzzles, and, especially, Pink Unicorns. His book, The Core Value Equation, is an Amazon #1 Best Seller and is available at www.thecorevalueequation.com.
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